Evolutionism? Or Creationism?

The popular (and fun) notion of Evolution... à la Darwin

A friend of mine put the following question to me, about a quote; my answer is down below, after the quote:

(sorry for not being able yet technically to keep the links and beautiful picture throught the copy-and-paste process!…)
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Bhaga,
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— On Wed, 5/18/11, Abraham-Hicks Publications <dailyquote@abraham-hicks.com> wrote:

From: Abraham-Hicks Publications <dailyquote@abraham-hicks.com>
Subject: Daily Quote – 05/19/2011

Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 10:35 PM

There is thought, and there is Thought Form, and there is Manifestation. Manifestation is always in the eye of the beholder. So this time-space-reality that everyone is perceiving is nothing more than vibrational interpretation.

So the Thought Form of that which is man was set forth from Broader Perspective, and has continued to evolve by the experience of those who were having the experience here on the planet. And what you actually see as man or human is vibrational interpretation.

Now, did man come from ape? No, man was a different idea. So how does the idea of evolution occur? And we say: because the idea of each species was set forth, and as the experience of the species is lived, the idea expands. So the expansion is happening from the Leading Edge place and is supported from the Source Energy that flows everywhere the idea goes.

— Abraham

Excerpted from the workshop in Billings, MT on Saturday, June 21st, 2003 # 78

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Answer from Bhaga:

I’m glad you’re asking that question, for this is a precision most people don’t know about, and which is important: as soon as one says ‘evolution’, everybody assumes it is the kind of process described by Darwin, that is, the survival of the fittest, man coming from ape, etc, etc. But Darwin saw only one side of the coin, and thought it was the entire thing. As this Abraham Hix says above, there is some evolution happening indeed to some degree within the energetic framework of each species; but each species itself exists (including Humans), not as derived from some previous species, but on its own, as a Thought-Form that did become manifested on the terrestrial plane and keeps being manifested there through the permanent energetic framework, so to say, that underlies and contains its basic way of life (instincts), plus all the accumulated growing and evolving collective experience of all the individual members of that species, wherever on earth they exist. So what Abraham Hix is saying is quite true, and  not only do I personally like it a lot, but, much more significant, it is the same as what Sri Aurobindo and the Mother also say on this point, and what Seth says as well, and Edgar Cayce too, and even the well-known biologist Rupert Sheldrake with the ‘Metamorphic Fields’ idea that made him instantly famous, even though main stream biology was frowning upon the idea, however demonstrated as true as it was by a number of long observed, unexplained facts plus several new experiments. The story known as ‘The Hundredth Monkey’, told by Lyall Watson, is one of the most popular accounts of this phenomenon.
So, the Thought-Form for a new species may take its starting-point from the best of what is already manifested through another species – and so to us it will pretty much look like it comes from that other species, except for what we imagine must be some ‘missing links’…!) but still in reality the new species will start straight from its own energetic template, and not by a gradual adaptation from another species.Well, I didn’t know how I would present intelligibly the difference between Darwin’s side of the coin and ‘God’s side of the coin; I hope I didn’t do too badly. As you can see, the Evolutionists and the Creationists in the USA can stop fighting it out at once: they are both right!… The full truth includes both views at the same time, completing each other instead of negating each other as our limited mind thinks they do…

Bhaga

4 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. Pat Cegan
    Sep 07, 2011 @ 07:51:09

    Thought provoking, Bhaga. It will be interesting to lean how all of these ideas come together. I expect that there is so much more to who we are and what Source really is. Little by little more is being revealed to us. As the awakening continues, we will be able to comprehend and experience much more. Bless you for your work here as you present ideas and messages that are timely and much needed. Hugs pat

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  2. Bhaga
    Sep 07, 2011 @ 08:41:26

    Good to have you around again! Thanks for this encouraging comment! The same goes for you and your blog too, of course, dear Pat!!!

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  3. Random Ntrygg
    Mar 23, 2012 @ 17:40:59

    I think that part of the problem is that people assume what Darwin said

    he never said humans came from apes or monkeys – he only said

    species change over time

    owing to natural selection (population stressors and events)
    and
    owing to sexual selection preferences and practices within any given population – be it plants or animals

    Darwin wrote Origin of Species and kept it to himself for almost 10 years, in deference to his wife’s religious view and sensibility and his fears about the reception of the text, given the givens of the day – but – when Alfred Russel Wallace – of the famed “Wallace Line” – wrote to Darwin, making the very same observations – well – publish or perish –

    nature may be red in tooth and claw – but – as Captain Kirk famously said, we can choose.not.to.kill.today.

    humans are classified scientifically as being one of the 5 great ape species

    as a species, humans are only 1% different from chimps and 2% different from gorillas

    and, if “western science” had discovered the bonobo subspecies of chimp BEFORE chimps – we’d have developed a far greater and more truthful understanding of human sexuality and social hierarchy

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo#Sexual_social_behavior

    it all comes down to people, making the best observations under their given circumstances – and that’s the nice thing about building on the body of human knowledge – the scientific method provides for revision and corrections, when new data and knowledge challenges the old ideas

    and lab coats are just as resistant to change, as other kinds of – as you said on an earlier post – dinosaur thinkers

    viva la differance

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  4. Random Ntrygg
    Mar 23, 2012 @ 17:54:50

    and “science” is no substitute and can’t really explain

    human experiences

    which are so much more than just stimuli and response, more than bio-chemical-mechanical processes

    we know so little about the human brain

    and I have begun to think that it’s not just a network with grey processing matter

    but that our brains are actually quantum computers – capable of processing information quantumly – and not binary like computers or, as is often the case, with narrow minded people – zero sum.

    I don’t think our bodies are a life support system for our brain
    and I don’t think our brains are only about operating the body

    we are more than the sum of our parts – quantumly more

    but understanding that – can be a long journey – and getting to that understanding

    is not the end to the journey, it’s just a completion stage – a jumping off point – for the next leg of the journey

    quantum to infinity

    maybe that’s the only place

    to see the true face of whatever god is

    maybe there’s a touch of the divine spark, within each of us

    I think that i hope so – and that’s a very new feeling for me

    thank you for being my mentor in the blogosphere

    whether you realized it or not

    thank you, Bhaga

    -n-

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