Altai, Belovodia & the Physics of Time

If there have been people during the last few days visiting this blog in the hope of a new post, I apologize for the unusually long delay in putting up this one: I had no internet connection for all this time… Now that the technical aspect is again working properly, here is the new post at last!  And this long interruption has given me time to start also on the next post, which then should be ready to be posted soon as well.

Having again mentioned young Russian psychiatrist Olga Kharitidi towards the end of my previous post, I felt I had to re-read once again, still with the same keen interest, her first book, ‘Entering the Circle’, looking especially for the moments when she has an unmistakable contact with her soul, something she herself learns to notice because of the specific ‘symptoms’ (my word) she experiences when that happens.
This is very important, so I decided to make of it my next post – this one – for it constitutes a major difference with Castaneda’s description of his training with Don Juan, Don Genaro etc, where no such contact with his soul happens at all, it all concerns only the occult planes and the contact with the powerful but obscure and dangerous beings and forces that, whether we are conscious of it or not, do try to invade us and make puppets out of us.

During Olga’s few days away from her big hospital in Novosibirsk and inside the two remote villages of Siberian Altai where she goes, she too will encounter  those hostile occult realities she has had to face already through some schizophrenic patients; this time, once back in his Altai village, her ex-patient Nikolai, the young man who has guided her and her sick friend Anna there, realizes that he isn’t becoming insane as he feared, but simply being changed into the new ‘kam’ (the real Altai word instead of ‘shaman’) needed for replacing his uncle Mamoush, the old kam who just died; the problem is, Nikolai’s normally friendly consciousness inherits at the same time the devious intentions towards Olga from Mamoush, for perpetuating the kam-lineage he and now also Nikolai belong to; but in the other village, Olga’s own newfound feminine mentor, the healer Umaï, although strange and sometimes scary in her behavior while she quite effectively cures an Altai woman and then also Anna, is actually a wise, warm and often smiling woman-kam from another lineage, dedicated to good; she protects Olga and very soon makes her discover the Spirit Lake within herself and her true Spirit in it, ever to guide her if she calls upon it.

The images, symbols and terminology aren’t the same as the ones from, say, the traditional spirituality of India, but still the inner realities perceived and the characteristic feelings are essentially the same, so I’ll summarize the part leading to the Spirit Lake, and then quote from what is said about it:
As conscious individualized energy, entranced Olga experiences herself at first as the undulating smoke rising from the fire lit in the middle of the isba’s earthen floor on which she lies, then as the fire itself going up, then as a snake struggling to come out of some very deep, resistant waters, desperately swimming up and up to reach the surface:
‘Finally the moment comes when I break out of the water and float on the surface of the ocean. Instantly it becomes a place of peace and calm. I love this ocean and could float like this in it forever. Nothing disturbs me. There are no thoughts other than appreciation for this water that now holds me up. I begin swimming. I swim and swim until I see the coastline. I realize that land meets that mysterious body of water on all sides and that I am swimming in a big round lake. Now I notice what is on the coast. It looks like a city. I can see buildings, cars and people. Panic takes me again. This is my city, my friends and my relatives. I don’t want to go back to them. I want to perceive nothing but the soft, flowing water.
A soft, feminine voice comes through my panic. “Be calm. I will talk to you now.” It is Umaï’s voice. I don’t know what language she speaks, but I know it is Umaï and somehow I understand her words.
“Now you are in your inner space, the place of the Spirit Lake. This is your first conscious time here. Each of us has this inner space, but during the lives of most people, it becomes smaller and smaller. As we go through life the world around us tries to fill up and kill this inner space, your Spirit Lake. Most people lose it entirely. Their space is occupied by legions of foreign soldiers, and it dies.
“Now you have experienced this space within yourself. Now you know it. You will no longer be afraid of the world around you. Your space will never be filled up with anything but yourself, because now that you have experienced it, you recognize its feeling and its pulse. You will continue to explore it. Later you will also learn that there is an important Inner Being who lives there. You will need to meet and learn to understand this Spirit Being. I will help you do this when you are ready.”‘

All this is already important enough, but even more is told to Olga then:

‘Umaï’s voice is soothing, and I hang onto every word as she continues.”This next thing is the greatest secret I could tell you. We have the task of building two things while we are in our physical lives. Our first task is to construct the physical reality in which we live. The second task is the creation of ourselves – of that very self that lives within this outer reality.
“Both tasks require equal attention. Keeping the balance between them is a very sacred and demanding art. As soon as we forget one task, the other can capture us and make us its slave forever. This is why the place of the Spirit Lake, the home of the Inner Being, becomes empty and dead for so many people. They come to truly believe that the outer world is the only one worth their attention. Sooner or later they will realize their mistake.
“For you, the main danger is not this but only in exploring your inner self. This is why you were already so interested in other people’s minds. You were using that information to try to understand your own psyche. You must learn to accept the importance of creating your own reality. Believe me that your work in the outer world has an absolute and equal power and ability to satisfy. Don’t be afraid of the shore around you now. Everything you see there is your own manifestation, and it is ridiculous to be afraid of your own creation. I will help you.”‘

By revealing this truth to Olga, Umaî helps her already to learn how to protect herself from her own possibly threatening creations:
1/ by remembering that outer situations in her life are only that, her own creations; and
2/ by not accepting the reality of those situations, but on the contrary asserting her own inner power to change them.

I personally appreciated particularly the remark about Olga’s way of being, more turned inward than outward, as I myself have the same tendency; the advice given by Umai has helped me to be less fearful of the threats from the outer reality, and sometimes already I have been successful in transforming them  into a more positive reality. Thank you, Umaï!… And Olga too, for writing this book!

Speaking of threats, we have to remember that all this was happening in Olga’s life while still under the Soviet regime.
One of the book reviews I copied for my first post about ‘Entering the Circle’ contained among other things this summary of the events that follow:

‘The author’s involvement with shamanism is fraught with danger, for in the Soviet Union, interest in the occult can lead to psychiatric commitment. But Kharitidi manages secretly to incorporate her new powers into her practice at the hospital. During her trance voyages, she visits Belovodia, more commonly known in the West by its Tibetan name of Shambhala, where a parallel human race with advanced spiritual knowledge hints at a radical new future for humanity. Others are also discovering Belovodia, Kharitidi learns, particularly a Soviet physicist researching the nature of time.’

What was put there in a nutshell I need now to expand about, for the ‘Conscious Evolution’ purpose of this blog:

One of Olga’s patients had been a sweet, idealistic and naive very young man, Victor, whose only crime at seventeen had been to say openly or even write things like ‘Soviet society is imperfect and could be improved in many ways’.
Interest in metaphysics and ‘anti-soviet’ ideas were always diagnosed as schizophrenia and ‘treated’ in ‘special clinics’. It was after having been sent to such a ‘special clinic’ that young Victor had been brought to Olga, a broken man:
‘(…) all his answers carefully memorized and rehearsed, (…) repeated without change: “I was sick. I understand it now. I want to continue taking my medicines to prevent the disease”.
‘There was only one time that I saw even a trace of remembered animation on his face. He had noticed a forbidden samizdat book that had been secretly reproduced for me on a copying machine by a friend. It was by Sri Aurobindo, an Indian philosopher and mystic, and I normally kept it hidden in my desk. After Victor glimpsed it, our relationship slowly began to change. It was the beginning of his trust for me.’

When reading Olga’s story for the first time, how moved I have myself been to discover the precious help Sri Aurobindo’s books had represented for all those Russian people oppressed also inwardly, by the heavy materialism inherent to the Soviet regime… How glad I have been to learn one of those books had been the silent, secret bridge between Olga and Victor.

He had never been really insane, and didn’t need any medical care except for recovering as much as was possible from the terrible ‘treatment’ he had received. Worried, though, about sending him back home to an egocentric and vain mother who rejected him, all the more now with the stigma of having been in the ‘crazy house’, Olga kept him in the hospital under her own safe wing for as long as she could extend his stay, but in the end, he had to be discharged and sent home.
‘After his release, Victor had written me a short letter telling about his attempts to find a job. He had been rejected at the few places he had tried, but he still hoped to find something. He also mentioned that his mother had sold all his books while he had been gone.’

Six months later, it is this poor Victor’ suicide, when she is informed about it upon returning to hospital duty after her Altai leave, that shakes Olga with deep enough sorrow to bring into her a new determination: she will discretely start making use of the changes that have occurred in herself and in her whole understanding of sanity, insanity and healing, for the sake of her patients, even at the risk of being discovered.

By one of those ‘coincidences’ that start happening in your life when you are aware of your Inner Being, a patient not really sent to her knocks anyway ‘by mistake’ at her office’s door in the hospital, and she gets invited to visit this Dmitriev, a renowned physicist, at his laboratory in the very important and highly respected ‘Academy cum City of Science’, Akademgorodok, near Novosibirsk. In spite of her original intention not to go, after Victor’s death Olga finds herself following not that mental decision, but her intuition, and eventually she does go to that laboratory, another turning-point in her life: confirming by direct personal experience the usefulness of the cutting-edge, strange-looking new equipment devised by Dmitriev, Olga’s consciousness shifts frequency and enters for a short while the dimension of this very Belovodia she longed to learn more about.

There she meets at last in person the man in white who had acted as her inner guide already in several major ‘dreams’: this masculine being is actually a part of Belovodia…. and so is Umaï, he reveals to her, so Olga needn’t worry, Nicolai’s claim that Umaï had died was a lie, she cannot die; but it wouldn’t be good to remain too attached to her emotionally, for that would hamper Olga’s own growth. Olga does have a deep inner connection with the tattoed mummies from an ancient unknown culture, and those mummies themselves are linked with Belovodia too: although they are seemingly dead, ‘their intentions are alive’, she is told. The discovery and opening of those tombs is one of the visible signs that a new evolutive step is already started on Earth. For individual human beings as well as for humanity at large, the most important thing is to be in contact with one’s Heart Self, which for humanity is precisely Belovodia/Shamballa, so it will come to be known more and more, also with the help of scientific devices like Dmitriev’s invention and the notes users like Olga are able to write while in a deep trance inside.

A few days later Olga has on her own another ‘dream’, at the end of which Umaï appears again to her, to reveal some more invaluable inner secrets for the true Healer Olga is indeed meant to become.
Following trustfully the advice received from Umaï, she has so much success with even supposedly ‘incurable’ cases that she can see these new approaches do work. Her colleagues and superiors see it too, but she presents her strange methods as taken from innovative experiments elsewhere!…
Every time, calling upon her ‘Spirit Twin’ inside herself makes her behave and speak in just the right, if apparently crazy, way, to help a patient… or, when she is finally suspected of ‘subversion’, to escape being found out by the dangerous interrogator she has to face… This moment turns out to be one of the funniest moments in the whole book!!!

Akademgorodok

Longing to have another session inside the curved, tubular ‘mirrors’ of Dmitriev, Olga goes again to his laboratory… only to find that in the meantime he himself has been able also to reach Belovodia, following the same wavelength frequency route that she had spontaneously and unwittingly used. Just to curl up again inside the ‘mirrors’, and there to read Dmitriev’s moving notes of his own visit to Belovodia, is enough for Olga to go back home fully satisfied again, as if she had had the experience herself. The story of Belovodia as told to Dmitriev traces the origins of humanity and of its various main religions back to that area of the world, and particularly the Altai region, long ago, when its climate was entirely different and this specific people there very developed spiritually.

It is so moving to realize the long foreseen vision that this people must have had of our times, of this later period of humanity when we would become ready to welcome again this spiritual wisdom that patiently waited for us to grow enough, and these beings who in the meantime, from their secret and protected realm of existence, have helped us at every step through their inner influence – or, as in the case of Umai, also through their physical presence with us here… Even mummies not so dead as they seem to be have helped and are helping still, through their ‘alive intentions’!
How beautiful and encouraging those teachings are, that together with Sri Aurobindo’s teachings, have shown Olga Kharitidi, and all of her readers, and now all of mine too on this blog, the great promised evolutive Future that is joining more and more our far evolutive Past to form in our Present the New Earth and the New Life we need so urgently!…  

24 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. Lisbeth Pedersen
    May 01, 2012 @ 09:10:23

    How do I find a practitioner/shaman here in Denmark. Best wishesl

    Lisbeth

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    • Bhaga
      May 02, 2012 @ 10:40:23

      Hello, Lisbeth!
      The only advice I could give about that would be to try and google “Olga Kharitidi” and see if there is a way at the moment to contact her directly, and if yes, you could ask her? I know there are now in some countries people trained by her. Or perhaps look up on her schedule, she gives workshops around the world, perhaps in Denmark too, or it could be organised???
      My best wishes to you too, anyway, and please let me know, give me some news!🙂
      Bhaga

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  2. Lisbeth Pedersen
    May 04, 2012 @ 18:55:59

    Thanks Bhaga.

    I will try to google Olga – and fill you in with my results.
    I am reading – almost without breathing🙂 your very interesting and lovely site.
    My interest is also the tattoo’s in the book. – and are trying to find out if there is an “art connection” with Lady of Cao from Northern Peru.
    If you have any good advise about this also – please let me know.
    Thanks again – and best wishes.
    Lisbeth

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    • Bhaga
      May 06, 2012 @ 12:05:12

      Sorry for the delay in answering you, there is often no internet connection.
      Very interesting, your remark about that other lady in Peru! Peru too is another coastal area around the Atlantic Ocean where groups of survivors from Atlantis also went after their main island was submerged…Any details about that Peru Lady??? I have never heard or read yet about her! Some tattoos too?…

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      • Lisbeth Pedersen
        May 06, 2012 @ 13:12:19

        Yes Bhaga,
        – but haven’t seen any close up photo’s of them – so far.
        You can se and read more about The Lady of Cao on this:
        http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/05/mummy-peru.html
        One of my friends are going to Peru next week, to meet the guide (again) – who originally found the grave – and told me about the story. I hope she will bring back some info about the tattoos.
        Since my last mail, I have been following several links to Olga – with no luck.
        Seems to me – that she is taking a rest…..
        Meanwhile I am still looking for a shaman who can help me healing my depression/anxiety.
        If you can think of any good connection – please tell me.
        Best wishes
        Lisbeth

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  3. Bhaga
    May 09, 2012 @ 11:15:30

    Still conversing with you, Lisbeth!
    I checked the link you kindly gave me, extremely interesting! So many parallels with the ‘Siberian Maiden’… I’ll look again at the video they give of the tattoos, when it will be darker outside and I can see better what’s on the screen of my laptop.
    As for you personally, the advice that comes to me just now is that you could consult someone who has been trained by Michael Newton, a very exceptional psychiatrist who has specialized in regressing people to their important other lives, and also to the time they have spent in the other dimension in-between lifetimes. Your present depression might have its root origin in another lifetime and be cured by healing this part of yourself you are not consciously aware of, but which is influencing you nevertheless just as I discovered certain events in some other lifetimes were influencing me strongly, in those cases in a negative way, in this lifetime.
    Perhaps you could start by reading the main books by Michael Newton that I read and liked very much:
    – Journey of Souls
    – Destiny of Souls
    And please don’t hesitate to contact me again if you feel like it, dear Lisbeth! I really would like to hear from you again.
    With a hug (I hope you don’t mind),
    Bhaga

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    • Lisbeth Pedersen
      May 09, 2012 @ 15:47:28

      Dear Bhaga,
      Thanks for your information and soothing hug😉 …. I have just seen a film – on UTube with Michael Newton – very interesting – I need to follow his movements here in Scandinavia and as you are suggesting – read his books.
      On my list of: “Books to read the rest of my Life” is also Carlos Castaneda.
      I am still very interested in the way shamans are healing – and are determined to following my heart in that direction too.
      Apart from enjoying nature – and the free gift of healing (and reading) – I spend my time painting and drawing my interpretations of tatto’s from the caves and from the mummy – finding that quite soothing – so please keep me updated on your findings.
      …..Wandering were on this planet you are looking for less light🙂
      …. and sending a hug back with the wind and the stars – so bright….
      (depression poetry – i couldn’t help it …sorry :))
      Lisbeth

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      • Bhaga
        Aug 08, 2012 @ 09:54:35

        It’s now a long time since you wrote that funny bit of ‘depressed poetry'(!!!) but I realize I never answered you and thanked you for it, so I do it now at last!
        This gives me the opportunity also to ask you, how are you by now? Any improvement that you may have noticed? Still writing some poetry sometimes?…

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  4. jaime t. licauco
    Aug 08, 2012 @ 05:12:33

    i just want to thank u for writing a clear and concise summary and commentary on dr olga kharitidi’s fascinating book “Entering the Circle” which i had initially ignored for a long time after i had bought it until several days of heavy rains and floods in metro manla left me stranded at home.. best regards. Jimmy Licauco

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    • Bhaga
      Aug 08, 2012 @ 08:34:49

      Nice to meet you!
      I am glad my attempts to provide an overall description of the story-line and its deep meaning have been found useful by you. Thank you for expressing your appreciation and gratitude, that is very encouraging for me: I can see this blog is useful to some other human beings in their own inner quest for a spirituality of evolution.
      What aspect of this book did you yourself find most interesting, moving or whatever?

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  5. reinventingmypreciouslife
    Mar 19, 2016 @ 03:42:54

    Dear bhaga,

    this write up gives me immense peace that all is well. very intellectual and intelligent write up.

    Soujanya

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    • Bhaga
      Mar 21, 2016 @ 08:04:56

      I’m glad this post of mine, beyond being a “very intellectual and intelligent” one (thank you for this appreciated compliment!), has also been beneficial to you to the point of giving you somehow this so precious indeed inner peace… May it stay with you for ever!…🙂

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    • Bhaga
      Mar 21, 2016 @ 08:20:40

      How did you happen to discover this so old post?… Was it through my recent one, about Amazing Grace and the Cherokees, in which I did mention Olga Kharitidi and gave a link to my early posts on her?…, I would really like to know, if you don’t mind telling me! 😀

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      • reinventingmypreciouslife
        Mar 24, 2016 @ 01:59:20

        Hello Bhaga. I found this write up through your recent article about Amazing Grace and the Cherokees. And I stumbled upon your blogsite as I was searching more and more about Olga Kharitidi and her knowledge about aurobindo. And I stumbled upon her as I was searching more about her book entering the circle. I was looking for more information about time travel and I found that this book mentioned something about it. Interesting to see how this whole connection has led me to. I have been both actively and passively seeking my own self for past several years. Recent times have been quite a revelation. I have visited Aurobindo Ashram while living in Chennai and when I was in my 12th grade. It left me remarkable impression on my young mind and I somehow was impressed with its utopian idealogy and subconsciously I have been seeking to be a part of such a society… but eventually life has taught more about what actual utopian society is and its challenges of the various human emotional and physical connectedness is and there is utopian way to live it but to find utopian realization in its dystopic society.. which can be very depressive considering the lower energy levels. I probably don’t make any sense. But, what I intend to say is that the one time visit to Auroville as a day trip left a very strong impression even though I could hardly read more than few pages about Sri Aurobindo or Sri Mother. Someday, I’m sure I would know more and understand them better. While I say this, recently for past year, I seem to be reminded of Auroville though it was not on my active seeking mind.

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  6. Rick Lipschuz
    May 14, 2016 @ 11:45:29

    Bhaga, thanks! I am an Aurobindonian and know of you through Wayne Bloomquist. I couldn’t find your site for years. You are the one Aurobindonian I know of who like me has had a direct experience of Christ as well as of Sri Aurobindo, and the soul. I leaped for joy within on reading your close encounter with Jesus. But I’d never heard of Dr. Olga Kharitidi (now Dr. Olga Yahontova). Your account led me to order both Entering the Circle and Master of Lucid Dreams through the Massachusetts library system. Her transformative, therapeutic, truly novel stories have touched me making me see the significance of spirits of trauma for both me and my son. As she wrote in the second book (p.200-201): …”fire and the sun are the extensions of my heart….The Great Mother lives here, inside the sun, and it is her love that unites all separated memories. She has power to forgive everything, for she gave life to everything. She fills in all space with her acceptance, and she doesn’t allow fear or guilt in her territory…The world belongs to her as at the very beginning, and life continues by her will….For the first time, I realize God is not a mere concept, but an alive, powerful, vibrating being and we all belong to Her….I experience these memories almost at the same time, and the change this experience causes in me produces a realization of the main memory gap I carry in myself. The gap that everybody of my time carries: the fear that we forgot the face of the Mother, that we forgot Her name….This realization fills my memory and everything painful in it becomes protected and transformed. A sweet sensation fills my heart with gratitude and I want to give all these memories to her, the Great Mother who always loves and always forgives.” Thank you for opening the door.

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    • Bhaga
      May 15, 2016 @ 05:53:01

      What a deeply moving account of the effect all this had on you, Rick!
      I am so glad this passage had the very same effect on you as it had had on me when I read it the first time, years ago, and again now, reading it again thanks to you : in my case, the intense joy of recognition of the ‘inner symptoms’, so to say, of the Psychic Being, symptoms I knew so well from direct experience since 1975, particularly the characteristic, unmistakable sign of It: that blissful Sweetness one experiences in its eternal Relationship,with the Divine, here as the Divine Mother..
      I just checked in my own personal copy of the book: there too, the very same pages and lines you have quoted, are also heavily underlined by me, and marked with the little symbols I use to signify ‘Psychic Being’!…. I was very happy for Olga that she too got to experience this, as it showed to me her inner path had not led her astray at all, although such a shamanic path I wouldn’t usually approve of or recommend.
      And now you, an Aurobindonian just like me, got also something beneficial from reading those books! Truly, our times are wonderful, when whatever contains a precious element of Truth in it re-surfaces and joins the Supramental Truth to help all the sincere seekers, whatever path they may be on at first…
      Thank you for mentioning Wayne Bloomquist (hi, Wayne!…), whom I thought had forgotten about me since long; thank you for trying to find me on internet; and thank you for taking the trouble to write down for me such a long and beautiful comment to this post of mine! Please do that again whenever you feel like it, this blog is very much a means of exchange and sharing too, not just of my expressing myself and my inner life…!🙂

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  7. Rick Lipschutz
    May 22, 2016 @ 13:43:23

    Thank you, Bhaga. I talk to Wayne a few times a month and will mention this—I will mention your blog, too. He generally doesn’t contact others, I contact him. Thank you for your moving reply; often what I say drops flat, as if it’s not right to say it or people don’t know what I’m talking about. You do and more. Back at the beginning of this brand new millennium Wayne was there to let me know certain things were possible behind the slam of closed doors. It’s great to find a kindred spirit. I am going to try to find Olga’s third book, Michael Gate under her new name Olga Yahontova. The library system doesn’t carry it, but I know she feels it is much more complete than the other books which she said in interview “only scratch the surface” (!). I am interested in dealing with these “spirits of trauma” from standing on the bedrock of a strong foundation (the supramental Mother in the psychic being?). Also wonder if possibly you think the golden supramental portion of the “subtle-physical” where Mother and Sri Aurobindo may be stationed, and possibly her story of the supramental ship, may have something to do with the stories of Shambhala, ships of Belovodia, Hurqalya, Hyperborea in Tibetan Buddhist, Altaic, Sufi, or ancient Greek or esoteric Mongolian traditions?

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    • Bhaga
      May 23, 2016 @ 09:29:22

      No time just now (giving a workshop session) but will answer later… as soon as possible!🙂

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      • Rick Lipschutz
        May 24, 2016 @ 19:15:27

        Yes, busy too, writing a book, but look forward any time to more contact. I think I emailed you Wayne’s address, and I know he would appreciate hearing from you.

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    • Bhaga
      May 25, 2016 @ 12:39:58

      1/ Thanks for Wayne’s address!
      2/ What’s the title/topic of your book?
      3/ If you do find Olga’s third book, please do let me know here and/or by email…
      4/ Regarding the supramental part in the Subtle-Physical dimension: I don’t think it can have anything to do with any of those much more ancient places,(which are i suppose continuations there of a few (?) spiritually advanced very ancient terrestrial peoples), as the supramental part is a new one being added in our times, gradually built in the Subtle Physical, directly thanks to all the work done by Sri Aurobindo and Mother precisely for that to happen, as a necessary preliminary to being then materialized some day in the Physical proper, yay 😀 !!!

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  8. Rick Lipschutz
    May 25, 2016 @ 14:15:16

    Dear Bhaga, Please email me about the book if you want.

    A profile of Wayne Bloomquist focusing on bringing his story alive, but with a far wider theme, appears in Collaboration http://www.collaboration.org/journal/archives/2015-Fall.pdf . It is only missing the introductory poem which Wayne felt was integral to the piece, and I’ve also made a few changes.

    I tend to agree with you: the supramental part of the subtle physical may be something new. But I also tend to believe they are working with others—that some aspects of the collaboration might surprise us all.

    More than anything, thank you for this website. There are so many wonderful things on it one can only scratch the surface. Speaking of scratching surfaces: your epic experience wishing dishes is absolutely amazing.

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    • Bhaga
      May 26, 2016 @ 06:11:42

      Thanks for the Collaboration link! I’ll check it up…

      Oh yes, i would say like you that an interaction is quite possible in the Subtle Physical between the new, SM part being built and populated, and whatever other populations from much earlier times… In the Agenda, Mother reminisces about her own existence in a happy physical body during the very first period, in the harmonious place/continent that was the Earthly Paradise, remembering even something of the location. If you are interested, i can give you the link, from the Index I made years ago of the Agenda as a whole.

      As for that washing dishes wonderful experience my body-cells gave me once, I didn’t even remember having ever put it in any post of mine here!!! Thanks to your mentioning it in your comment just above, I traced it back immediately and can now add here the link to the post where I tell that indeed lovely story:
      https://labofevolution.wordpress.com/2013/01/07/the-consciousness-in-things/ , so that I can find it easily again if needed!…

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      • Rick Lipschutz
        May 26, 2016 @ 14:43:27

        Thanks, and I do remember the Mother speaking of this. As for the piece on Wayne: If you follow it through, you may hear it speaking to the life of someone, like Wayne or perhaps like yourself, who has some experience in the yoga of the cells, something of what is found and what is faced—which gives me encouragement that it can be done and is being done, and that this is something the Mother will lead us into and through.

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    • Bhaga
      May 27, 2016 @ 09:43:27

      Hi Rick…
      Just sent you an email thanking you for that great article you have written on Wayne… But I forgot one point:
      Is the missing poem by you or by Wayne? And would you mind sending it to me, by email, perhaps? I would love to read it too, especially if Wayne felt it was part of the whole thing…
      And I appreciate very much what you have written just above, in your answer to me. I do feel the present exchange is indeed encouragement to all of us who already are or will be getting some experience of the yoga of the cells; as you so beautifully say, ” encouragement that it can be done and is being done, and that this is something the Mother will lead us into and through.”

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